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            Titel: system settings and so 
             Verfasst am: 17.05.2011, 16:34 Uhr
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          hi, 
 
 
i can't use some options of system settings
 
eg when I try to change time i see: Unable to authenticate/execute the action: 4, 
 
the same when i try to change time zone
 
 
thx, conta
 
 
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             Verfasst am: 17.05.2011, 16:52 Uhr
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          | Time Zone change was also rejected on Live System. | 
         
        
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             Verfasst am: 18.05.2011, 06:49 Uhr
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          Try using "dpkg-reconfigure tzdata" as root from the command line instead.
 
 
ETA: Or log in as root using "sux" and run "kcmshell4 clock". | 
         
        
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             Verfasst am: 18.05.2011, 11:45 Uhr
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          You can also change UTC in /etc/default/rcS. After you configured your timezone + utc setting run
 
 
fix-time
 
 
in a console and it will get the time from the internet. | 
         
        
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             Verfasst am: 18.05.2011, 12:23 Uhr
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          thanks guys, i know about those options, but that's not my point in here
 
 
what i mean is [in general] that people use KDE because they dont wanna use command line
 
and it's not about time only, i can't also edit KDM and so.
 
 
eg. Date settings say that I will be asked to authentificate, but i am not, instead i got error i wrote upper
 
 
solution should not be to use command line, but fix the trouble with authentification ;] 
 
maybe it's KDE problem, i dont know | 
         
        
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             Verfasst am: 18.05.2011, 12:35 Uhr
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          | I would definitely avoid to use kde settings for time/date settings. Basically it only needs to write /etc/timezone, but it will not appear in the debconf database that way without dpkg-reconfigure. | 
         
        
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            Titel: Live System 
             Verfasst am: 18.05.2011, 12:51 Uhr
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          Live System
 
 
eco2geek hat folgendes geschrieben:: 
Try using "dpkg-reconfigure tzdata" as root from the command line 
 
OR
Zitat: 
System Settings>Time Zone
 
Select zone; Apply
 
System Settings>Time
 
Confirm change
 
Close window
 
Discard changes to Module
 
 
 
Cmd line $date verification
 
 
Unfortunately Digital Display on bottom right still shows UTC
 
So, in 'K' menu: Search 'xclock' & Run it     | 
         
        
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            Titel: Live System 
             Verfasst am: 18.05.2011, 17:17 Uhr
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          | That does not change utc (bios time) to localtime. You need to change the /etc/default/rcS. Basically it is better to use utc with every os, for Win there are reg hacks, if you use os x on the same pc then you definitely have to store the time as utc. When you dont store the time as utc then the time is always changed as soon as you boot win (twice a year). | 
         
        
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            Titel: Live System 
             Verfasst am: 18.05.2011, 21:04 Uhr
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          | @conta: some settings in KDE's systemsettings can be changed by root users only, like KDM settings - if you want to change them use
 Code: 
kdesu systemsettings
 
in KDE 4.4.5 the button to become root from the GUI is not implemented (i think it is in 4.5+, iirc)
 
 
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            Titel: Re: Live System 
             Verfasst am: 19.05.2011, 14:08 Uhr
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          Doesn't work:  
 
Code: 
kanotix@Kanotix:~$ kdesu systemsettings 
 
bash: kdesu: command not found
 
root@Kanotix:/home/kanotix# kdesu systemsettings 
 
bash: kdesu: command not found
 
 
 
Kano hat folgendes geschrieben:: 
That does not change utc (bios time) to localtime. You need to change the /etc/default/rcS. 
 
 I'm not too worried about bios time, it can stay as it is. I just wish to change the time shown on the display at the bottom bar, so as not to lose track of time by being misled by the display and losing 2 hours    | 
         
        
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            Titel: Re: Live System 
             Verfasst am: 19.05.2011, 14:31 Uhr
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          | kdesu is not in the normal path, only when you use alt+f2. But whats wrong using the correct console tools? | 
         
        
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            Titel: Re: Live System 
             Verfasst am: 20.05.2011, 01:08 Uhr
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          | 
 Kano hat folgendes geschrieben:: 
kdesu is not in the normal path, only when you use alt+f2. But whats wrong using the correct console tools?
 
Because none of them seem to be having any effect in changing the time display on the bottom tool bar panel.
 
 
Anyway the best workaround I've found so far is to use 'tzselect' to  obtain the appropriate tz value for kernel parameter 'timezone' as a one-off  grub edit in conjunction with 'persistent'. thus:
 
Code: 
kernel          /hx/vmlinuz fromiso=/dev/sda5/hx/kanotix-2.6.38rc6.iso boot=live config utc=yes locales=us quiet gfx=on persistent [timezone=America/Los_Angeles]
 
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            Titel: Re: Live System 
             Verfasst am: 20.05.2011, 08:37 Uhr
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          | Better use utc=no in your example. The command i told you are for a real hd install and NOT for persistent mode which is configured by the extra options you can use. | 
         
        
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