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Post subject: Knoppix 5.1.0 released, based on Debian Etch
 Posted: Dec 31, 2006 - 01:43 AM
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http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=03938#0
I am downloading it now. I hope it is good enough to install. |
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Posted: Jan 04, 2007 - 04:44 PM
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It's possible but some things are horrible 
Another test-install, nothing more (for the moment)
Kanotix the better Knoppix for HD-Install, based on etch may be an interesting idea !
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Posted: Jan 04, 2007 - 05:32 PM
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| I do not think that it is "based" on Etch, maybe the preferences are set to testing. |
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Posted: Jan 04, 2007 - 10:01 PM
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Daddy-G wrote:
It's possible but some things are horrible
Another test-install, nothing more (for the moment)
Kanotix the better Knoppix for HD-Install, based on etch may be an interesting idea !
It is true, alas. Installed it is terribly buggy. |
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Posted: Jan 04, 2007 - 10:07 PM
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Kano wrote:
I do not think that it is "based" on Etch, maybe the preferences are set to testing.
It is "Update to Debian etch/testing as base distribution", according to:
http://knopper.net/knoppix/knoppix51-en.html |
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Posted: Jan 05, 2007 - 12:52 AM
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| That's what i mean, what you do is setting the default to testing instead of unstable. You can do that in 2 ways, ether /etc/apt/apt.conf or /etc/apt/preferences. |
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Posted: Jan 05, 2007 - 01:08 AM
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Kano wrote:
That's what i mean, what you do is setting the default to testing instead of unstable. You can do that in 2 ways, ether /etc/apt/apt.conf or /etc/apt/preferences.
Ah OK. Sorry for not being clear enough. |
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Posted: Jan 05, 2007 - 08:56 AM
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hi,
new release today..... 5.1.1...... |
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Posted: Jan 05, 2007 - 02:01 PM
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| Glad I did not download the last one |
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Posted: Jan 05, 2007 - 03:38 PM
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jackiebrown wrote:
Glad I did not download the last one
I gave it to my sister |
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Posted: Jan 05, 2007 - 04:23 PM
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Having tested running it from CD I find some things do work quite well. For example the wlan works out of the box which it did not on previous versions.
The Beryl 3D desktop is not only impressive but actually useful in navigating typically overcrowded workspaces, providing of course the right type of CPU and graphic adaptor is available.
Small non-antialised fonts render very well in various applications, including Gimp, Firefox, which is often not the case on current distributions or xorg's.
Otherwise I fail to understand why Mr Knopper does not encourage hd-installs because running entirely from CD is just not practical in this age of cranky CD readers. |
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Posted: Jan 05, 2007 - 06:47 PM
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| Well beryl looks nice, Kanotix has basically also beryl support - just beryl was not preinstalled, but compiz was. The xorg.conf missed one tiny tweak, but basically the compiz cheat is working in live mode too. Knoppix used the desktop=beryl option, I used a different approach. |
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Posted: Jan 05, 2007 - 08:19 PM
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Otherwise I fail to understand why Mr Knopper does not encourage hd-installs because running entirely from CD is just not practical in this age of cranky CD readers.
In my opinion, when most people think of a live cd, no matter what distro they use, Knoppix comes to mind. I haven't used Knoppix since it first started popping up, and don't know if it's still true, but it was originally intended as just that, a live cd. I think Mr Knopper could go the route that a lot of distros have gone and allow a good hd install as well as double as a live cd, but then it would just be another good distro that some people use and some people don't. I think keeping it primarily as a live cd is what makes Knoppix stand out (I notice it doesn't do too bad on distrowatch's rankings). I know that if I had the choice between a good hd install of Knoppix, and KANOTIX, the best OS available, KANOTIX wins, hands down. |
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Posted: Jan 05, 2007 - 09:25 PM
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well my test-Knoppix 5.1. HD-install survived a d-u today. But its funny whenever I had to change something in grub, fstab etc. I first had error 16 ("inconsistent filesystem structure") on reboot. When I used kanotix between the Knoppix reboot, it worked without probs again hm.
The Knoppix HD-Install works now more or less but the fonts.... 
For HD-Install Kanotix is better. We need a equivalent of Knoppix 5.1. Based on testing, with same features (perhaps beryl) but better for HD-Install ( and a little bit support here ?)
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Posted: Jan 05, 2007 - 09:40 PM
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Daddy-G wrote:
For HD-Install Kanotix is better. We need a equivalent of Knoppix 5.1. Based on testing, with same features (perhaps beryl) but better for HD-Install ( and a little bit support here ?)
That would be ideal, but I wonder if that is what Kano wants (he should do the work after all-personally I am willing to pay for something like that, but I wonder: how many more people would?) |
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Posted: Jan 05, 2007 - 10:31 PM
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Daniele wrote:
Daddy-G wrote:
For HD-Install Kanotix is better. We need a equivalent of Knoppix 5.1. Based on testing, with same features (perhaps beryl) but better for HD-Install ( and a little bit support here ?)
That would be ideal, but I wonder if that is what Kano wants (he should do the work after all-personally I am willing to pay for something like that... )
Me, too. |
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Posted: Jan 05, 2007 - 10:43 PM
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| A good micro-payment donation system would probably help, similar to the one used on Wikipedia. |
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Posted: Jan 05, 2007 - 11:23 PM
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tuxedo wrote:
A good micro-payment donation system would probably help, similar to the one used on Wikipedia.
I am not quite sure what a micro-payment donation is, but the main cause for the status Kanotix is in now is that donations didn't work as a means of collecting enough money. |
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Posted: Jan 05, 2007 - 11:36 PM
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| A micro payment system is one where many small payments (or large for that matter) can very easily be made, i.e. a user friendly system. Features such as on Wikipedia can display the amount raised and the donors who may optionally be credited as contributors, eg. coorporate sponsors. |
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Posted: Jan 23, 2007 - 06:43 PM
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